Dec. 29, 2021

2021 Non-Pro/Open Ranch Horse National Champion Sidney Karr

2021 Non-Pro/Open Ranch Horse National Champion Sidney Karr

I sit down with Sidney Karr to discuss her 2021 National Championship Titles for both Non-Pro and Open Ranch Horse.

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Tony Bottoms: Welcome to Appaloosa:

more than just a color breed, a podcast dedicated to showing the world the versatility and adaptability of the Appaloosa horse, as well as the people devoted to enhancing and preserving this outstanding breed. Hey, how are you doing today? Thank you for listening to the only podcast that talks about the Appaloosa horse and the people who love them, wherever that might be today. We've got a little bit of Appaloosa news for you. And then I have interview with Sydney car, which I did back during nationals, where she won pretty much everything. You can win with a range. So let's go ahead and get over to Appaloosa news. So if you haven't heard, they still haven't made a decision on nationals for 2021. It's coming down to a decision on December 30th. Well, it's supposed to come down to decision on December 30th, that remains to be seen. So if you want to participate in that meeting, well, actually I take that back. You can't participate. You can listen in via zoom. But you cannot participate. You won't be able to participate. The zoom audience will not be able to participate. They can just listen in, go figure that they don't want to hear from the members. Right. They just want us to hear what decisions they make and then roll on. Is that basically how it works, right. AI, and I know this isn't Appaloosa news, but this is Appaloosa podcast news. If you have no. Which I'm sure you have. I've been gone for a little bit. We've had a few things going on, Heather and I sold our farm. Got rid of most of our horses that we have. We still kept a couple of brood mayors. We kept our yearling. Colt is getting ready to turn two. And our two year old mayor, that's getting ready to turn three they're in training. And like I said, we still have to have our brood mayors. And other than that, we pretty much got rid of her. And bought an RV and we'll be traveling around the country. So I haven't taken some time to reorganize also been thinking about, or thinking about a little bit, what I want to do with the podcast and what direction I wanted to go with it. And that kind of stuff. The, one of the things I was thinking about now that we're traveling on an RV, if you have a show or an event going on and we're in area, or if you let me know about it ahead of time. To where we can be in the area and you want us to be there to cover the show or the event, and you want us to help you promote the show or the event. Let me know tony@apolisimmediate.com and we'll be more than happy to swing by the event or the show and, you know, walk around to interviews, stuff like that. We are going to be out showing more this year. Like I said, we have two. Our coal and our mayor or under saddle right now, they're going to under saddle. Whether that means we'll be riding or not. I don't know. The mayor could possibly be for sale to the right person for the right price. I don't know. We'll see what happens. We have somebody that we think might be interested, but you know, she's a nice mayor. She's well bred, you know, we'll see what happens if she sells herself. If she doesn't, then we got a nice horse. So anyhow, like I said, we're going to be traveling around the country will be shown a lot more. We have some in hand prospects that we have friends with and associations with that. We'll probably be doing some stuff with that. I enjoy doing the in hand this year, you know, the hunter in hand and that kind of stuff. So we will see how that all worked out. That is our hope right now. And we have other things going on, but if we are in your area, And, or just drop me a line and say, Hey, this is what's going on at this time. And if we can make it up into that area, then you can make we'll, you know, we'll try to make it up there and kind of get to know the audience a little bit better and help promote the Appaloosa horse, whatever the event might be. You know, it doesn't matter to me if it's sounds like it's going to be something fun, then we'll go. And if you know somebody that's in our area, They might be interesting to talk to let me know and we'll talk to him, you know, maybe we can get some of this stuff done live instead of online all the time online. Stuff's great. But you know, getting out and meeting people what it's really all about. Let's go ahead and jump over and listen to the interview with Sydney car today with Sydney car and you guys get to experience and she gets to experience the first time we've actually gotten to do this wide. We'll go from there. I Sydney car go ahead and tell us a little bit about your background and all that kind of stuff.

Sidney Karr:

So I was actually, I've been shown horses my whole life, both my parents show. So I've was bred into this. So I like to say I did all around horses for my entire life. And four years ago, I was approached to be able to show a ranch horse and everything kind of spiraled from there. And I got out of the, all around. Good. Came to the ranch horse training side of things,

Tony Bottoms:

or we did a little bit of a blurb last night. I go, shit. Did I put it on Facebook? And you guys have been having a horrible national showroom.

Sidney Karr:

That's pretty rough. No, we were extremely blessed, extremely blessed. And I couldn't have asked for anything more from my board or my team.

Tony Bottoms:

Yeah. So you ended up with make sure I get this right. The non-pro and open. Ranch horse champion, correct? Roll champion on everything. And what was your

Sidney Karr:

horses name? He is one buff Jersey. Yeah. We call him buff. Right.

Tony Bottoms:

I was looking at that. I'm like warm both Jersey. You can kind of go and do a few different ways about that one. Both jerseys chow. Yeah.

Sidney Karr:

He's a little buff, but he's a little thing. So it works.

Tony Bottoms:

Hello and good. You get

Sidney Karr:

into rain, right? 2018 was my first year I ever showed it. And then I took a break in 2019 and didn't show cause I was getting married. So that takes up a lot of time. And so then I actually purchased my first ranch horse. That was just all mine in 2020 and started then.

Tony Bottoms:

So that was like technically two years. Cause you took one year off. Right? So a lot of people look at that and they'll go. Well, I mean, ranch horses. That's a competitive, I mean, there's a lot of people doing ranch right now. So a lot of people look at that and go, we'll kill them and doing it for two years, but we'll back up and go. But you've been showing pretty much all

Sidney Karr:

your life. I was in my very first lead line class at 20 months old. So I've been, I will be 30 in a few months. So I've been doing it a few decades now, but I think a lot of it transfers over right sportsmanship to me. And you just have to learn the technique of what. Event that you were doing to, what were you doing before? All around? So I had a hot seat horse and a Western horse, and I was doing horsemanship, showmanship pleasure hunter under I jumped, I drove, I did a little bit of everything. So

Tony Bottoms:

what do you think translated the best to doing the ranch horse stuff?

Sidney Karr:

Horsemanship. I love horsemanship. It was one of my favorite classes whenever I was doing the all around. And I think. There's a lot there. That transfers. Right. So what we do in the ranch force is basically a more relaxed version of what you see the all around people doing the horsemanship and, and a little bit faster pace in some different skills, but being able to show a pattern is a skill that you have to have to do the, for.

Tony Bottoms:

So did you did some of the, the

Sidney Karr:

raining, right? I did. I won that. Non-pro raining.

Tony Bottoms:

So obviously that transfers over to some of the ranch stuff too. Cause you're doing a lot of that now on the ranch. What all ranch did you

Sidney Karr:

do all of it? I did every single ranch class that I could between the open. And then

Tony Bottoms:

so on the trail, I know I've talked to some of the raining renters before, but like on the trail, You know, you guys are pulling logs and stuff like that,

Sidney Karr:

or trying to rope a hay bale and really messing that up. I I, I had a little incident in my non-pro trail, so, but it's, it's a little, the trail is different. It, you still have to find your marks and you still have to find your stride over the poles, but there's definitely a lot more different types of obstacles than what you see in the normal channel. Yeah. I mean,

Tony Bottoms:

I think when I think of the trail ranch trail, I think it's silver. Like some of the extreme trails stuff that they do without actually getting out there and watch it. I mean, I, you know, went and saw some of it and I'm like, oh, okay, well that's because that's, for me, that's something that interests me. You know, if I was, you know, getting back into riding and stuff like that, it's like, okay, well, it seems, it seems more like something you can tackle.

Sidney Karr:

Yeah. I, I like to a really good ranch trail pattern. To me, it's something that's very practical opening and closing gate roping, cattle, working cattle, even just being around cattle, loading in a trailer, things like that, that you have to do on the ranch. That's what creates a good ranch pattern. And I think that's probably the biggest difference in classes that we have from the normal, all around to the branch.

Tony Bottoms:

So do they actually have some cattle?

Sidney Karr:

Not at this one. So we had them in. 2018. Yeah. 2018 at the world show. We had to move cattle.

Tony Bottoms:

Yeah, I think I was, I talked to Leslie temple before and I think it was heard, it was telling me about one word. It was like a, a combination between light team paint or tip penning and in ranch trail, she was like, you better. This was like a regional show or B might've been an open show or two, I don't know. But. That's all like, it could have been fun. She goes, yeah, it could have been

Sidney Karr:

less. He's a great human and I admire her very much.

Tony Bottoms:

Like I've talked to her, not on the show, but just talking to her. She's very knowledgeable about what she does and stuff like that. So what's

Sidney Karr:

next. Next is NSPA world show. So we come back to Tulsa and 12 days. Buff is going to what we call swim camp. So he's going to 11 in between, and he will just get to relax and do the Aqua pacer and be a horse. Then we start over again. We have a couple of months and headed the world show. So he think Kira hogget, they live right up the road from me and they have an Aqua treadmill for the horses and a free flow, but they're going to

Tony Bottoms:

sell it on the big jumbotron out there.

Sidney Karr:

They take good care of my babies

Tony Bottoms:

as far as okay. Yeah. In SBA. But is this, are you going to continue doing. You

Sidney Karr:

know, or I hope to, I, I love it. You know, that's, that's my goal. I, you know, I love to do the raining too, so it's really cool combination to be able to have a horse that can do both. And I'm very, very blessed to have that.

Tony Bottoms:

So are you going to try to get more into the

Sidney Karr:

raining? I think so. It's something that it's, to me, the ranch horse is kind of a good stepping stone, so. You know, relax, going a little bit faster, things like that. And now that I have a horse that did the raining, I'm learning how to rain and it's a really fun, really fun of it. So

Tony Bottoms:

the, the thing with the raining is you sick, especially if you see them at, you know, close the professional level, it's like, as somebody who's never done that. And it's like, wow, It's incredible. Yeah. I don't know if I can, I don't know if that's so Mike, it tackled. Yeah. Like you said, the ranch would probably be a good stepping stone because you look at the ranch and it's like, okay. And somebody who's not used to doing anything like that, that looks like you could tackle that. You could take the steps to get to that point where as you watch professional Rainers. Yeah.

Sidney Karr:

Oh, it's really your animal. I've been very blessed to take lessons from some really great branding trainers. Casey deary, Jared LeClaire, bud lineup. I've been able to go and take lessons from them on a kitchen and their knowledge base is absolutely mind blowing mind blowing

Tony Bottoms:

or those. Arizona

Sidney Karr:

people. No, they're all right here. Well, I say right here, we're in Tulsa. They're all in DFW.

Tony Bottoms:

Well, I know it's interesting because a lot of the like performance and halter people seem to be around pilot point. A lot of the top raining people seem to be out there in Arizona,

Sidney Karr:

tun in DFW, the Dallas Fort worth area. Yeah. So Casey's in Weatherford and bud is, I guess he's in Gainesville now. He just moved Jared's and Gainesville as well. So they're right in my area, like right, right here, right there in that same

Tony Bottoms:

area. And I always think that's interesting how all those people like you like pilot point Gainesville all that there. And it's like, why is everybody right there?

Sidney Karr:

Good dirt. It's not a problem. If that's what it is. I actually graduated from Aubrey high school, which is

Tony Bottoms:

I never thought about that. Yeah, I guess, cause then you don't have to worry about putting sand in your ranches

Sidney Karr:

and stuff like that. Dirt you stayed there.

Tony Bottoms:

Well, good luck. And I appreciate you spending time with us and congratulations, obviously that. A big thing for you. So how did you do at, I guess I didn't ask that when you were doing this for, had to do before.

Sidney Karr:

So I purchase buff from Jane Cairo about four weeks before the world show. And we had a very short time to get together and we ended up being the high point non-pro ranch horse at the world. This past year. And so that was really, really cool. And, you know, we were kind of winging it. We didn't really know each other that well, but he's such a good boy and he shows up and I think just over the course of the last nine months, he's grown up a lot and I've grown in my skill level and it's really coming together and he's fairly

Tony Bottoms:

young too. He's five. Yeah. So, you know, for a raining or some for cattle, horse, that's, I mean, he's got some pretty good years with obviously. I know with the professional Rainers, it's usually by five or six, they're pretty much done, but you know, we're not, we're not doing that

Sidney Karr:

level. And he knows like he, when he shows up to a horse show, like he knows, like he it's game time and he shows up every time and it's really amazing.

Tony Bottoms:

That's cool. And it's interesting. He's a Halloween.

Sidney Karr:

Yeah, he actually has five sets of papers. So he's, he's a special little boy for sure.

Tony Bottoms:

I know when I first walked up, I'm like, wait a minute. What's he doing?

Sidney Karr:

Yeah. He's he's he's really cool. He's

Tony Bottoms:

not, I didn't look at him real close, but does he have characteristics

Sidney Karr:

now? He doesn't. He is that what did they call it? Performance. Yeah. And he's got a performance or

Tony Bottoms:

tickets.

Sidney Karr:

So I, I love my Appaloosas and I've had Appaloosa since I got back into showing horses after I graduated college, but I'm never going to be wanting to turn down a bad horse either to me, to me, it breed isn't quite as important as a good horse. I've just found really good horses in the app. Probably do some NRA stuff. That's yeah. Getting to take my Appaloosas to the NRA is going to be pretty cool thing. Yeah. So that's, that's my goal is to, you know, start maybe doing that type of raining. Of course I love my local clubs still support them and go as much as I can for sure. So I'm going to dabble.

Tony Bottoms:

Yeah, I think they're supposed to have a big show here next weekend. I think. In RHA because it's before. Yeah. I think thing is before NSP. It's either it's either right before or right after warranty.

Sidney Karr:

I know the run for a million that big. Yeah. Which I don't know exactly when it is, but I know it soon, so I don't know.

Tony Bottoms:

Yeah. We're talking to Clint Ramsay and he was there. So that will again, thank you. I appreciate it. We can catch up to you all later, like a warrant or

Sidney Karr:

something like that. Yeah, that would be great. And I just wanted to say a really quick shout out to Shane suds. He's my trainer and he is absolutely amazing. He didn't get to show the show because he did get hurt. And I hope I made him really proud showing you the open classes. So this one's for you buddy

Tony Bottoms:

out there working some horses, even though he's not

Sidney Karr:

supposed to let him do the lunch line. So he's he's, he's trying really hard to sneak one in and we're trying to keep him on the ground

Tony Bottoms:

all. Well, there you go. That was Sydney. And like I said, during national, she won pretty much everything. There is to win on a ranch horse in the ranch classes. And like I said, if we're in your area or if you drop us line and we can be in your area to help you promote your show or promote your event, or if you just have somebody that you think is interesting to talk to right now, we are in Southeast Texas. We'll probably be here till after the new year. And they were moving over to Louisiana. And after that, I dunno, maybe Mississippi, we might head back over to central and west Texas. I don't know. It depends. I'm still in the guard. So I have to stay somewhat close to Oklahoma. Most of the time they're kind of working with me a little bit, but anyway, Y'all have a good day. Thank you for listening, please subscribe and share the show with your friend. Gives the help in hand. Talk to you later. Bye